I talked Charles into the N20 :) I was at the track and Charles was very serious about running the car with the new trans and convertor first to get his best time off of just the stock turbos. Charles ran the car without the bottle installed for a couple reasons.....He wanted to prove that the N20 was not being used and the car would also be lighter without the 24 lb bottle :) After running the 11.60 time he continunued to run the car without the bottle............... It is also very easy to see by the timeslip that N20 was not used because the MPH was only 117. He was wanting to continue to run without the N20 and I egged him on to use the N20...... He still did not want to install the bottle and ran a couple more times without the bottle untill he finnally got tired of hearing me and handed me his keys for me to make a run with the N20. After I ran the 11.1 he could not help himself and he ran the car himself with the N20. When the N20 was installed and turned on the MPH was 122 to 124 I think Charles deserves the stock turbo without N20 record, But it is your list and for the work you put into your site I believe the rules should be how ever you see fit. I know we are all very happy with you keeping up the site and I am sure we will all be very comfortable with how ever you would like to handle it. Thanks for all your hard work!